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Eaten half a slug Posted: 22/06/2011 by HelenandBrian |
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On Saturday I spotted Brian in his outdoor enclosure with what at first glance looked like his tongue lolling out of his mouth. I picked him up and on closer inspection realised it was a slug. I pulled it out of his mouth, very carefully, but I think he probably had eaten half of it. To date he seems fine but do you think this will do him any harm and also how on earth can I stop him doing this again if he finds another slug? Thanks, Helen | |
Re: Eaten half a slug Posted: 22/06/2011 by DavidWYork |
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I really would not worry! In over 40 years as a tortoise keeper, I have seen this on numerous occasions. During periods of drought especially, molluscs (slugs and snails) attach themselves to leaves of dandelions and other great food plants. I pick bags full of wild grown plants and regularly see "beasties" on the leaves. I NEVER remove these at all. I have for decades, had healthy, mature torts with perfect shells. Sometimes we are,I feel, in danger of becoming over-obsessive over our torts, giving so many supplements and such that we end up with sexually active torts after only 3-4 years from hatching ( a far cry from nature). In the wild, they must eat animal matter when grazing naturally...all part of a balanced diet. In nature, opportunism rules. I wonder how many wild european tortoises feed 365 days...in a temperature of 30 deg celsius.( I accept there are temperature gradients on tortoise tables). We are providing those conditions for thousands of mediterranean tortoises...is it really very natural? I must stress these are my personal views based on experience. I am not knocking other keepers at all, and would welcome views and experiences of other tort keepers. I am no expert, and am the first to champion sharing expertise...I learn so much from reading other members' postings. What do others think? Kind regards, David nr York. | |
Re: Eaten half a slug Posted: 23/06/2011 by HelenandBrian |
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David, thanks so much for your kind reply. I tend to agree with you, they must eat slugs if they go outside, it's just that we don't notice. He seems fine 5 days later. Tell me, do your torts stay outside all summer? I bring Brian in each night, but I have to decide each morning whether or not to put him out. He has a lovely 'chalet' in his enclosure which is waterproof but has no heating outside. If the forcast is for heavy rain, I don't put him out but I feel much happier if he does spend the day outdoors. What are your thoughts on this? Thanks, Helen | |
Re: Eaten half a slug Posted: 25/06/2011 by DavidWYork |
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Hi Helen. Last autumn I moved house after 25 years in the same property. Luckily where I now live I have been able to replicate once more, conditions I have found successful for over 40 years now. I always choose a property with a south facing rear garden.I keep my Testudo ibera torts in a 16 by 10 foot pen in the south facing garden. There are 2 wooden shelters and a sun-warmed 5 by 2 foot cloched area. (Currently, I have a 6 by 6 foot part sectioned off where I am quarantining a new arrival.) Main pen has a gravelled area, rough planted area and shrubs for shade. Luckily the garden is very secluded, and so I have no security worries. Unless there are really severe downpours forecast, when I would fear flash flooding, I leave them out all summer (...that is after the first 3 weeks following hibernation when they are kept under heat lamps to ensure they are healthy and feeding well. Also pre hibernation to allow guts to empty.) I do however, ensure they are always in their shelters each night, and have someone do the same even when I am on holiday. I always hibernate if at a good weight and no health issues. I hope this helps. Regards David. | |